Comments on: Alejandro “Beaver” Nunez, 1959-2009 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/ Because Every Bicyclist Needs a Good Lawyer. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:14:46 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Pre-preliminary 2009 Fatality Report @ Arizona Bike Law Blog http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-9506 Pre-preliminary 2009 Fatality Report @ Arizona Bike Law Blog Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:16:32 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-9506 [...] a signal; and one is said to have “crossed” in front of traffic (though there are reportedly problems with the police [...] [...] a signal; and one is said to have “crossed” in front of traffic (though there are reportedly problems with the police [...]

]]> By: Jeff http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6676 Jeff Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:56:45 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6676 I am touched that Erik went through all the work to follow up and find out about Mr. Nuñez. It must be frustrating to go through all the hassle when you know that the police are so resistant. Keep up the great work Erik. This site is definitely a service to the community. I am touched that Erik went through all the work to follow up and find out about Mr. Nuñez. It must be frustrating to go through all the hassle when you know that the police are so resistant.

Keep up the great work Erik. This site is definitely a service to the community.

]]> By: Lauren http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6665 Lauren Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:39:31 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6665 Just want to convey to readers that the process of obtaining police reports involves a little more than "just go down to the Stone Ave. police station and fill out a form." Despite how nonchalant Erik makes it seem, it can often involve waiting for over an hour depending on how many other people are there. Erik does this all on his own time because there really isn't anyone else keeping track of these reports. The other thing is that all of these cost money, which really adds up when you request a lot of reports. Erik has accumulated quite a few of these over the years and spends not only his money but also a lot of valuable time analyzing them. Just want to convey to readers that the process of obtaining police reports involves a little more than “just go down to the Stone Ave. police station and fill out a form.” Despite how nonchalant Erik makes it seem, it can often involve waiting for over an hour depending on how many other people are there. Erik does this all on his own time because there really isn’t anyone else keeping track of these reports.

The other thing is that all of these cost money, which really adds up when you request a lot of reports. Erik has accumulated quite a few of these over the years and spends not only his money but also a lot of valuable time analyzing them.

]]> By: Red Star http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6662 Red Star Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:09:23 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6662 "You don’t get to file a complaint about something that happened to someone else." Okay. Not wondering about complaining about what happened to someone else (i.e. smacked by a van or a whatever). Wondering whether a non-involved (not involved in the incident -- the something that happened to someone else)person is allowed to file a formal complaint regarding TPD behavior *related* to and subsequent to the incident. Perhaps the way to find out would be to just go for it... and see what happens... Does this give one a headache? “You don’t get to file a complaint about something that happened to someone else.”

Okay. Not wondering about complaining about what happened to someone else (i.e. smacked by a van or a whatever). Wondering whether a non-involved (not involved in the incident — the something that happened to someone else)person is allowed to file a formal complaint regarding TPD behavior *related* to and subsequent to the incident.

Perhaps the way to find out would be to just go for it… and see what happens…

Does this give one a headache?

]]> By: Erik http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6661 Erik Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:45:44 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6661 Red Star, any member of the public can get police reports. You just go down to the Stone Ave. police station and fill out a form. You have to know the date and cross streets where the incident occurred. The reports on the web do not include the narrative, which is usually the most important part. Complaints can only be filed directly by people who were injured in a direct fashion by the complained of activity. You don't get to file a complaint about something that happened to someone else. EBR Red Star, any member of the public can get police reports. You just go down to the Stone Ave. police station and fill out a form. You have to know the date and cross streets where the incident occurred.

The reports on the web do not include the narrative, which is usually the most important part.

Complaints can only be filed directly by people who were injured in a direct fashion by the complained of activity. You don’t get to file a complaint about something that happened to someone else.

EBR

]]> By: Red Star http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6659 Red Star Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:09:02 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6659 It's not easy, but it's not impossible for the public to get TPD police reports: http://tpdinternet.tucsonaz.gov/Services/#PoliceReports And it seems straight-forward to file complaints about TPD behavior, including resource allocation. Apparently the public can do this. Now, if complaints are ignored or, if complaints are met with self-exoneration (such responses themselves seem to be course for further action), what is the next step for a concerned citizen who wants to take action that brings actual results? It’s not easy, but it’s not impossible for the public to get TPD police reports:

http://tpdinternet.tucsonaz.gov/Services/#PoliceReports

And it seems straight-forward to file complaints about TPD behavior, including resource allocation. Apparently the public
can do this.

Now, if complaints are ignored or, if complaints are met with self-exoneration (such responses themselves seem to be course for further action), what is the next step for a concerned citizen who wants to take action that brings actual results?

]]> By: Erik http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6658 Erik Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:15:55 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6658 Red Star, I file a lot of these, even though it is a waste of time. Remember the guy that got attacked with a baseball bat? The motorist drove up beside him and a passenger leaned out the window and started beating him with a bat. Then they sped off laughing. The victim got the plate number, but TPD refused to do anything, saying that since the bicyclist didn't get a good look at his assailant, nothing could be done. My investigator found out who this guy was and where he lived. We argued that just having the police VISIT THE GUY'S HOUSE might deter him from continuing this stuff. They refused to do so. We filed a complaint. Eventually they sent us a letter back exonerating themselves. I still file police complaints, but I don't exactly hold out much hope it is going to accomplish anything. EBR Red Star, I file a lot of these, even though it is a waste of time. Remember the guy that got attacked with a baseball bat? The motorist drove up beside him and a passenger leaned out the window and started beating him with a bat. Then they sped off laughing.

The victim got the plate number, but TPD refused to do anything, saying that since the bicyclist didn’t get a good look at his assailant, nothing could be done. My investigator found out who this guy was and where he lived. We argued that just having the police VISIT THE GUY’S HOUSE might deter him from continuing this stuff.

They refused to do so. We filed a complaint. Eventually they sent us a letter back exonerating themselves.

I still file police complaints, but I don’t exactly hold out much hope it is going to accomplish anything.

EBR

]]> By: Red Star http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/alejandro-beaver-nunez-1959-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-6657 Red Star Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:05:18 +0000 http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=824#comment-6657 Troubleshoot the following course of action: 1) Obtain a copy of the police report and whatever other documetation is available. 2) Interpret the info obtained in 1). 3) File complaints, if indicated in 2), with TPD OPS ("internal affairs") and Police Advocate. 4) Interpret and announce results from 3). Repeat 1) through 4) the next time, and so on... Troubleshoot the following course of action:

1) Obtain a copy of the police report and whatever other documetation is available.

2) Interpret the info obtained in 1).

3) File complaints, if indicated in 2), with TPD OPS (“internal affairs”) and Police Advocate.

4) Interpret and announce results from 3).

Repeat 1) through 4) the next time, and so on…

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