Comments on: Does Boise, Idaho have the nation’s most enlightened bike laws? http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/ Because Every Bicyclist Needs a Good Lawyer. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:06:45 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Tucson Scott http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-12371 Tucson Scott Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:54:36 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-12371 Ok, just to avoid future confusion on this site I'd like to point out that the Scott above is not the one that lives in Tucson and has posted frequently here about how this double-standard nonsense is a really bad idea for cyclists in the long run by perpetuating the public perception of bicycles as recreational toys and not serious vehicles subject to vehicle laws. I mean really - if you're that afraid of extending the effort it takes to ride, then what are you doing on a bicycle in the first place? Stuff your lazy ass into an SUV where it belongs if you can't hack a little exercise! Ok, just to avoid future confusion on this site I’d like to point out that the Scott above is not the one that lives in Tucson and has posted frequently here about how this double-standard nonsense is a really bad idea for cyclists in the long run by perpetuating the public perception of bicycles as recreational toys and not serious vehicles subject to vehicle laws. I mean really – if you’re that afraid of extending the effort it takes to ride, then what are you doing on a bicycle in the first place? Stuff your lazy ass into an SUV where it belongs if you can’t hack a little exercise!

]]> By: Scott http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-12366 Scott Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:36:17 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-12366 Sorry. I'm not trying to hijack this thread. Here are his Idaho bike law posts: http://bikenazi.blogspot.com/search/label/bicycle%20law Sorry. I’m not trying to hijack this thread. Here are his Idaho bike law posts:
http://bikenazi.blogspot.com/search/label/bicycle%20law

]]> By: Scott http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-12365 Scott Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:33:16 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-12365 Oops. The link didn't work. The Bike Nazi is at http://www.bikenazi.blogspot.com/ Oops. The link didn’t work. The Bike Nazi is at http://www.bikenazi.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Scott http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-12364 Scott Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:28:00 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-12364 Angelina, Sadly, I no longer live in Boise. My suggestion is to contact <a href="www.bikenazi.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">BikeBoy aka the Bike Nazi</a> in Boise. He's a transportation cyclist and advocate. As such, he's well-versed in Idaho's bike laws, and he regularly lobbies the local gov't in all things velo-related. And his blog is entertaining. Angelina, Sadly, I no longer live in Boise. My suggestion is to contact BikeBoy aka the Bike Nazi in Boise. He’s a transportation cyclist and advocate. As such, he’s well-versed in Idaho’s bike laws, and he regularly lobbies the local gov’t in all things velo-related. And his blog is entertaining.

]]> By: Angelena http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-12361 Angelena Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:59:07 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-12361 On comment number 4. by Scott, I'm am an avid rider in Twin Falls, and I'm Trying to get this topic out in my community. So that I myself and other riders will quick being harassed. Are there any other documents, websites, articles, codes, really anything besides the drivers manual that state this concept? If anyone has any ideas please let me know! I'm single cyclist show at the moment. I'm not sure how but i want to get the whole community of riders in the state of Idaho to maybe make an impacted state wide and not just city wide. Also to put an end to newspapers write a few articles every so often on how the government is trying to represent us and the problems we face. On comment number 4. by Scott, I’m am an avid rider in Twin Falls, and I’m Trying to get this topic out in my community. So that I myself and other riders will quick being harassed. Are there any other documents, websites, articles, codes, really anything besides the drivers manual that state this concept?

If anyone has any ideas please let me know! I’m single cyclist show at the moment. I’m not sure how but i want to get the whole community of riders in the state of Idaho to maybe make an impacted state wide and not just city wide. Also to put an end to newspapers write a few articles every so often on how the government is trying to represent us and the problems we face.

]]> By: Sky http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1294 Sky Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:13:21 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-1294 What possible reason could there be against such common sense laws? If a bicyclist disregards his sense entering an intersection, s/he will not kill or hurt anyone except themselves. The reason NO bicyclists ever (even very responsible ones, as well as police) stop at stop signs is simple because it is entirely unnecessary and downright dumb, not to mention a huge pain in the arse. Going at bicycle speeds it is not necessary. What possible reason could there be against such common sense laws? If a bicyclist disregards his sense entering an intersection, s/he will not kill or hurt anyone except themselves. The reason NO bicyclists ever (even very responsible ones, as well as police) stop at stop signs is simple because it is entirely unnecessary and downright dumb, not to mention a huge pain in the arse. Going at bicycle speeds it is not necessary.

]]> By: Scott http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-779 Scott Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:03:07 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-779 I live in Boise, and yes, it's a great law, not because of self-inflated egos, but because it takes a lot more effort for cyclists to regain their momentum than for drivers who just have to push down the gas pedal. The stop sign portion of it works just like a yield sign for a motorist. That is, you don't just blow through a stop sign. You slow down, check for traffic, and <i>if it's clear</i> you continue on. <i>If it isn't clear</i>, you stop (Or slow down enough for the hazard to pass). The stoplight portion works similarly. Come to a stop at a red light. If it's clear to continue on, you go without waiting for the sensor. If it isn't clear, you wait. I've been at many stoplights where cross-traffic required me to wait for the light to change. I've never had a problem with either provision. The law's biggest drawback is that it requires common sense for the cyclist (Which isn't always the case), and knowledge of the laws by law enforcement (Which is usually the case). I live in Boise, and yes, it’s a great law, not because of self-inflated egos, but because it takes a lot more effort for cyclists to regain their momentum than for drivers who just have to push down the gas pedal.

The stop sign portion of it works just like a yield sign for a motorist. That is, you don’t just blow through a stop sign. You slow down, check for traffic, and if it’s clear you continue on. If it isn’t clear, you stop (Or slow down enough for the hazard to pass).

The stoplight portion works similarly. Come to a stop at a red light. If it’s clear to continue on, you go without waiting for the sensor. If it isn’t clear, you wait. I’ve been at many stoplights where cross-traffic required me to wait for the light to change.

I’ve never had a problem with either provision. The law’s biggest drawback is that it requires common sense for the cyclist (Which isn’t always the case), and knowledge of the laws by law enforcement (Which is usually the case).

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-434 Anonymous Sat, 31 May 2008 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-434 And why should cyclists enjoy this privilege, outside of their own inflated self esteem? And why should cyclists enjoy this privilege, outside of their own inflated self esteem?

]]> By: Fritz http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-423 Fritz Tue, 27 May 2008 22:38:00 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-423 IIRC, this is state law in Iowa, not Boise city code. IIRC, this is state law in Iowa, not Boise city code.

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/does-boise-idaho-have-the-nations-most-enlightened-bike-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-421 Mickey Sat, 24 May 2008 16:35:00 +0000 http://www.pushingbuttonsaz.com/tucsonbikelawyer.com/?p=258#comment-421 That'd be great if motorists both were aware of and respected such arrangements. I barely trust motorists to not try and run me over when I'm passing through green lights. That’d be great if motorists both were aware of and respected such arrangements. I barely trust motorists to not try and run me over when I’m passing through green lights.

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