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	<title>Comments on: Just one more reason Portland gets the Platinum</title>
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		<title>By: David Bohm</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of cargo/useful bies.  In fact, I am friends with Bill Stites who will help design the accessories.   Certainly being involved for so long with bikes has changed my view but here it is anyways.   There are ways to make these locally, greener, better and still bring them in at a cost that fits within a household budget.   

Buying bikes from China and then stripping off a majority of the parts only to replace them with &quot;better&quot; parts is a waste.  I own a flying pigeon.  These bicycles are about 35 dollars in China.  I paid 85 dollars, shipped to my house.   Having good brakes, wheels and such is missing the point entirely.  Half a billion Chinese get around on Pigeon like bicycles happily without all the upgrades and by the time you have a 350 dollar Pigeon, you could have bought a better bicycle from Giant or many others.   

The intrinsic cost of these cargo bikes is high.  All we do by making them in Asia and shipping them here is offset our carbon and waste somewhere else. 

Bilenky (www.bilenky.com)sells a well made fully outfitted American version for 2695.00 and a few of the Portland framebuilders make them between 1500-2500.   I would say 1500-2500 for a vehicle that lasts nearly a lifetime with basic maintenance, has no insurance costs and no fuel costs is pretty darn good value.   

(I like that he has a locally made utility bike, the Mundo)

All the best,

Dave Bohm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of cargo/useful bies.  In fact, I am friends with Bill Stites who will help design the accessories.   Certainly being involved for so long with bikes has changed my view but here it is anyways.   There are ways to make these locally, greener, better and still bring them in at a cost that fits within a household budget.   </p>
<p>Buying bikes from China and then stripping off a majority of the parts only to replace them with &#8220;better&#8221; parts is a waste.  I own a flying pigeon.  These bicycles are about 35 dollars in China.  I paid 85 dollars, shipped to my house.   Having good brakes, wheels and such is missing the point entirely.  Half a billion Chinese get around on Pigeon like bicycles happily without all the upgrades and by the time you have a 350 dollar Pigeon, you could have bought a better bicycle from Giant or many others.   </p>
<p>The intrinsic cost of these cargo bikes is high.  All we do by making them in Asia and shipping them here is offset our carbon and waste somewhere else. </p>
<p>Bilenky (www.bilenky.com)sells a well made fully outfitted American version for 2695.00 and a few of the Portland framebuilders make them between 1500-2500.   I would say 1500-2500 for a vehicle that lasts nearly a lifetime with basic maintenance, has no insurance costs and no fuel costs is pretty darn good value.   </p>
<p>(I like that he has a locally made utility bike, the Mundo)</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Dave Bohm<br />
Bohemian Bicycles</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott,

Turns out the real job at Joe Bike was filled.  http://bikeportland.org/2008/10/16/utility-bike-specialistconsultant-joe-bike/

You are right, the other jobs available at the company are less interesting/lucrative.

--EBR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott,</p>
<p>Turns out the real job at Joe Bike was filled.  <a href="http://bikeportland.org/2008/10/16/utility-bike-specialistconsultant-joe-bike/" rel="nofollow">http://bikeportland.org/2008/10/16/utility-bike-specialistconsultant-joe-bike/</a></p>
<p>You are right, the other jobs available at the company are less interesting/lucrative.</p>
<p>&#8211;EBR</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiring?  An unpaid internship and a part time seasonal sales job - probably commission only.  If the auto companies could get away with that they wouldn&#039;t need a bailout.

Nice cargo bike though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiring?  An unpaid internship and a part time seasonal sales job &#8211; probably commission only.  If the auto companies could get away with that they wouldn&#8217;t need a bailout.</p>
<p>Nice cargo bike though.</p>
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