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		<title>By: KC Vale</title>
		<link>http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/something-about-a-separated-bike-path/comment-page-1/#comment-17843</link>
		<dc:creator>KC Vale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in Phoenix and I figure many of you &#039;pedal power people&#039; might very well have disdain for someone riding a motorized bike like me, but you really shouldn&#039;t.

If we could get from here to there for 2 cents a mile in a timely fashion without a drivers license and dropping dead from the heat in a mile we would.
Well, maybe not, they are pretty fun to ride ;-}

Personally I have had no issues riding on any surface street, large or small, but I do feel much move comfortable with the buffer zone on the right even a simple bike lane provides.

I also use the canal paths whenever possible, even if they are a little out of my way.
Though I always show consideration and coast by pedal bikers at idle, when it&#039;s just me it is like my own private Autobahn highway.

I think the real difference between how a typical driver sees a pedal bike compared to a motorized bike is 
1. We scoot along at a pretty good clip, and 
2. (while it lasts) a bit of a &#039;That&#039;s Cool!&#039; factor and they notice you.

I am all for making a little more road room for all of us people on bikes, all I ask is when you see one of us, especially when it&#039;s over 100F out, show us the same respect we show you as well as the vehicle road traffic.

Thanks ;-}
KC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Phoenix and I figure many of you &#8216;pedal power people&#8217; might very well have disdain for someone riding a motorized bike like me, but you really shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If we could get from here to there for 2 cents a mile in a timely fashion without a drivers license and dropping dead from the heat in a mile we would.<br />
Well, maybe not, they are pretty fun to ride ;-}</p>
<p>Personally I have had no issues riding on any surface street, large or small, but I do feel much move comfortable with the buffer zone on the right even a simple bike lane provides.</p>
<p>I also use the canal paths whenever possible, even if they are a little out of my way.<br />
Though I always show consideration and coast by pedal bikers at idle, when it&#8217;s just me it is like my own private Autobahn highway.</p>
<p>I think the real difference between how a typical driver sees a pedal bike compared to a motorized bike is<br />
1. We scoot along at a pretty good clip, and<br />
2. (while it lasts) a bit of a &#8216;That&#8217;s Cool!&#8217; factor and they notice you.</p>
<p>I am all for making a little more road room for all of us people on bikes, all I ask is when you see one of us, especially when it&#8217;s over 100F out, show us the same respect we show you as well as the vehicle road traffic.</p>
<p>Thanks ;-}<br />
KC</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a spot on my commute in the AM where I&#039;m on a narrow 4 lane road to 1/3+ mile. This is in a section where there is no bike lane and cars/trucks/whatever are coming off a 45, read 50, mph sectio to go 35... I&#039;ve noticed an increase in adrenaline for the run. 

There are only 2 major problems I have with bike paths here. The maintenace issue. Once in place, no cleanup or fixup. Crossing major roads is an issue. Usually a crosswalk in midblock. Bad design.

The other issue is here they are mixed use. AM commute is good nice clear road. After that and weekends, good luck. Too many meandering people of all kinds, many with corks in their ears and their tunes at full blast...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a spot on my commute in the AM where I&#8217;m on a narrow 4 lane road to 1/3+ mile. This is in a section where there is no bike lane and cars/trucks/whatever are coming off a 45, read 50, mph sectio to go 35&#8230; I&#8217;ve noticed an increase in adrenaline for the run. </p>
<p>There are only 2 major problems I have with bike paths here. The maintenace issue. Once in place, no cleanup or fixup. Crossing major roads is an issue. Usually a crosswalk in midblock. Bad design.</p>
<p>The other issue is here they are mixed use. AM commute is good nice clear road. After that and weekends, good luck. Too many meandering people of all kinds, many with corks in their ears and their tunes at full blast&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Red Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s good to win a convert. However, to push things a bit, every time Red Star performs the thought-experiment of separated bike paths between downtown and UA/UMC, the grid gets in the way. Seems the grid always wins. Have the local professional planners considered this issue? What were their findings? Did they lose? Have they solicited research from one of USA&#039;s &quot;top universities?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s good to win a convert. However, to push things a bit, every time Red Star performs the thought-experiment of separated bike paths between downtown and UA/UMC, the grid gets in the way. Seems the grid always wins. Have the local professional planners considered this issue? What were their findings? Did they lose? Have they solicited research from one of USA&#8217;s &#8220;top universities?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always amazed at how much stress I feel when I leave the santa cruz bike path to get on saint mary&#039;s in order to get across I-10. I wish we had greenways running in a network all over town so that they could serve more of the population. But in dense residential neighborhoods bike boulevards are the best we can do -- far better than bike lanes on, say, speedway. It would be interesting to see the actual numbers for commuting cyclists: the rillito greenway vs. 3rd street vs. speedway, etc. I think because of density alone that 3rd street would come out on top. My feeling is: greenways where we can, bike lanes where we must, and bike boulevards everywhere else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always amazed at how much stress I feel when I leave the santa cruz bike path to get on saint mary&#8217;s in order to get across I-10. I wish we had greenways running in a network all over town so that they could serve more of the population. But in dense residential neighborhoods bike boulevards are the best we can do &#8212; far better than bike lanes on, say, speedway. It would be interesting to see the actual numbers for commuting cyclists: the rillito greenway vs. 3rd street vs. speedway, etc. I think because of density alone that 3rd street would come out on top. My feeling is: greenways where we can, bike lanes where we must, and bike boulevards everywhere else!</p>
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		<title>By: Bikes aren’t hard to see if drivers pay attention &#171; BikingInLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikes aren’t hard to see if drivers pay attention &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] through the West. The sky’s the limit for a 14-year old Arizona bike racer. Tucson Bike Lawyer discovers the joys of a separated bike path, while his Chicago counterpart looks at the joys and risks of alleycat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] through the West. The sky’s the limit for a 14-year old Arizona bike racer. Tucson Bike Lawyer discovers the joys of a separated bike path, while his Chicago counterpart looks at the joys and risks of alleycat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Coghauler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coghauler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that greenways allow cyclists
to avoid intersections, bettering
their odds against incidents.
I think the multi-use paths have the
potential to serve the greatest
number of cyclists (at all riding
abilities) than any other facility.
The Rillito&#039;s numbers are quite high
now and when it&#039;s connected as far
South as you can think of, the residential
and business access will be extremely
well-served. This really can&#039;t happen
fast enough. Just that part of the
entire planned connection would serve
thousands of city and county residents
for a fraction of the cost of that tracked,
toy-attempt at alternate transportation
that may serve hundreds of mostly students.
Harrumph!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that greenways allow cyclists<br />
to avoid intersections, bettering<br />
their odds against incidents.<br />
I think the multi-use paths have the<br />
potential to serve the greatest<br />
number of cyclists (at all riding<br />
abilities) than any other facility.<br />
The Rillito&#8217;s numbers are quite high<br />
now and when it&#8217;s connected as far<br />
South as you can think of, the residential<br />
and business access will be extremely<br />
well-served. This really can&#8217;t happen<br />
fast enough. Just that part of the<br />
entire planned connection would serve<br />
thousands of city and county residents<br />
for a fraction of the cost of that tracked,<br />
toy-attempt at alternate transportation<br />
that may serve hundreds of mostly students.<br />
Harrumph!</p>
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